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Title: Trolling Report
Post by: Krawler on June 12, 2021, 10:11:57 am
Made it out this week for a few short trips.  Bay was flat, temp warm, no wife or kid, why not?!?!

First outing Wednesday pm managed 3/5, 2 smaller and one about 10lbs.  Found areas with warm surface temps and good bait on bottom, figured fish would be scattered with the lack of winds so i covered ground instead of staying put. Long leads in the upper water column with standard size moonshine spoons took fish.

Thursday am slept in but went for a quick troll.  Immediately found fish, they were actively feeding on bait and lots of streaks on the finder.  Never seen such a concrentration of salmon in one area this early in the season, shortened my leads,  Bites were fast, ripping line and gone.  Went 2/6. Meegs and moonshine spoons scattered throughout the column, constantly changed depths to cover the column and entice a strike. 40-70 over 70-90, surface temp 68.  Other areas was 58 that i passed through.  the warm water made me stop and drop lines.   

Im hearing good reports from around the Bay, could be a banner season.  Good luck if you make it out. 
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: grampa on June 12, 2021, 06:46:44 pm
good job Kris someone had to start this thread figured it would be you. the few i have found also came from warmer water and long leads with small spoons.heading north this week for some walleye action then hope to get back to trolling the bay.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on June 14, 2021, 06:03:47 pm
Good to hear. I am off the Canada day week and hope to be out a lot. My boat is still on the hard at Hindson. Launching next week.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: jaywinfield91 on July 13, 2021, 12:20:43 pm
No one else out trolling ?
Went out Sunday July 11 out from Collingwood lines in the water by 5 a.m got a double header at 5:20. One laker around ,2 pounds on a flasher fly combo and then a 13 pound king caught on a green and white nk spoon rigger down at 55 in 85 fow.
Tight lines everyone and let's get these reports going.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Chopper on July 14, 2021, 04:34:40 pm
Out off Collingwood on Monday, nailed a 5 pound Rainbow on the cheater spoon, purple and green.  Fishing in 90 feet so I am assuming the spoon was around 45 feet down.  Tuesday hooked into a Salmon in 70 FOW.  Lines were at 60, 40 with cheaters on each.  Hit the deep lure at 60.  Marked all the bait at 60 feet.  Zero marks of anything out at 90.  Decided to stay shallower as a result. 
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Daren R on July 25, 2021, 11:16:38 am
Hi new to this message board and new to downrigging. I was out this morning near Christian Island with  no luck. I was in a hundred  ft and riggers were down 40ft and 60ft. Any tips were to fish around the area? My kids are getting frustrated with me  lol.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Krawler on July 27, 2021, 08:04:40 am
Run and gun. If you don’t mark any fish , try another spot after 30 min. Never leave your riggers at the same depth longer then say 15 min, change by 10ft.
Run 2.4-2.8 and grace speed. Change baits often, can’t go wrong with blues and greens.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: beaudointl on August 03, 2021, 07:15:45 pm
Out at Meaford today.  Marked a few fish at 80ft in 100 - 105 FOW.  Nobody I talked to had any luck.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on August 04, 2021, 10:37:37 am
I haven't posted in a while and this summer has been pretty lousy for me in terms of getting on the water.  Its hard to catch them from 180km away.

I was out a few times and marked some fish in the hole, but have only had one salmon on and didn't get it in.  Felt like a 10lber or so.  I have some time on the water coming up and will post a bit more.  I made up some meat strips and will break out that program again.  Its been a few years since I ran meat on G-Bay.  I tried it last Saturday evening and appeared to churn up a few streaks on the graph but no hits. 

I made the strips from 6 inch frozen sardines I bought at Terra (Asian grocery in Mississauga).  I fileted them into strips and heavily salted them with coarse salt and a bit of borax powder for a few days, then drained off the liquid and froze them in ziplock bags.  The skin stayed nice and shiny and the meat firmed up well. I only tried one strip so far and it held up nicely for about 2hrs of washing, so looks good.  When I raised it up to check for weed and to see if it held together, it dripped an oil sheen even after an hour or so.  So if scent is an attractant, they will work well.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on August 09, 2021, 04:52:20 pm
Was out last Saturday AM from about 6:30 in the Hole.  Didn't mark much but found some bait in a few spots with a few marks above.  No takers.  Gave up and headed over to Methodist to get a couple of lakers for dinner.   Definitely not spending enough time of the water this year.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: buck on August 09, 2021, 05:36:17 pm
Have spent most of my time in the hole…..marking very few fish…and less bait…not much action….not even knock offs….and i have been taking Krawlers’ advice..got one nice one a week or so ago on a moonshine……near Gin Rocks….and a 10lb male, who was darkening….in 90 feet of water in the same place on a Jplug/Lyman green this morning…..had marked a line of bait near the bottom ….neither fish had any bait in their stomachs?

Nobody has been posting…either everyone now uses a different site….or there are not many fish being taken?….also not many boats out and i have not seen any fish taken?

Hope springs eternal…out again tomorrow

Buck
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on August 10, 2021, 09:24:23 am
The few times I have been out by Methodist and in the hole there haven't been too many boats out.  Saturday in he hole there was maybe 8 boats and only one over by Methodist.   Over by Methodist and Giant's tomb green can, the water was really warm even down deep.  We found a couple cooler pockets but it was close to 60 degrees even down 100ft.  I hope to get some vacation time late august and spent some more time on the water.  BTW gas at our marina is $1.75/litre this year.  Not good.  The boat takes over 800 litres to fill.  I top it up each time I get back to take the sting out of it.  I think I need a smaller boat.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Krawler on August 10, 2021, 03:41:14 pm
I havnt been posting much bc not getting out much, new baby means less time on the water.

Was out on Sunday evening for a few hours, screen was blank for the most part, good temps.  I tried shallower thinking a few fish might be staging as I have heard some rivers have had solid runs lately, not there, ended up going deeper.  I think the lack of wind the past week or so has really caused the fish to be sporadic, winds and currents are not pushing the fish around.

I got one 17Lb salmon on a Moonshine Carbon 14 at the witching hour, great fight, also got a shaker.  Fish were in temp but over deeper water 70/110 but marked a few over 130 before sunset. 

The few times I have been out, the fish I'm catching are quality fish! 

Hey Buck if you fish the Hole, go a day after a West or NW wind, that really drives them in there. 

Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: JL on August 10, 2021, 06:15:13 pm
Fishes the hole Saturday. One jack that was full of milt but only about 5 lbs. water is the warmest this year that I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on August 22, 2021, 03:42:06 pm
Finally got some salmon stink in the cooler this AM.  I took a few from the cottage next door out.  Lots of boats out.  Picked up a nice male just a bit shy of 17lbs.  Kind of skinny though.  Got it on a small sized flasher and my sardine strips.  Was only fishing from about 7:45 to 10:00 or so.  Hopefully I can get on the water a bit more this week.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: GG on August 26, 2021, 08:36:54 am
Was at the hole last night for two hours before sunset. Dragging a white Lyman on one rod and and a dodger and squid-bait on the other. Lots of other boats and marked tonnes of fish from 60-100, but no takers. Fun to watch the sun set, though. Back out this morning.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: GG on August 26, 2021, 03:05:22 pm
14 lber from the hole this morning on a green NK 28.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: GG on August 27, 2021, 01:27:12 pm
Two more from the hole his morning.  Both on a white Lyman.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on August 27, 2021, 11:13:03 pm
I was out solo in the hole this AM too. I went 1/2.  First one was a tank that I lost.  I couldn’t stop it.  Just peeled line and even with more drag, it was not going to be taken. It reminded me of the 30lber I got in Lake O.  Not saying it was that big, but I’ll bet it was 25.  Anyway, the one I did get was 13lbs.  Both on dodger/fly.  85 over 120.  58 degrees at the ball.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Fozzy47 on September 01, 2021, 04:45:41 pm
Hi  Canuck, I'm new to the GB area, but interested in fishing it.
My interest is Bows and salmon. Can you give me a direction as to what port to head toward. I hear they migrate east as the season progresses. My boat currently is at Honey Harbour.
I would appreciate any help offered. Not looking for specific  areas, what Port to head toward.

Thanks in advance.

Dave
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on September 03, 2021, 01:44:18 pm
Hi  Canuck, I'm new to the GB area, but interested in fishing it.
My interest is Bows and salmon. Can you give me a direction as to what port to head toward. I hear they migrate east as the season progresses. My boat currently is at Honey Harbour.
I would appreciate any help offered. Not looking for specific  areas, what Port to head toward.

Thanks in advance.

Dave


Right now the best salmon fishing is close to Honey Harbour.  There is an area between the North West end of Beausoliel Island and the mainland that we call the Hole.  Its pretty easy to spot on the charts and because of everyone fishing there this time of year.   No bows, but decent salmon staging before the spawn up the Coldwater river. 


I was out this AM and slayed them.  Put 3 in the box, released one, had about 5 knock offs.  All by myself running only one rod.  Earlier in the year they are around the islands (Christian, Hope, Beckwith and Giant’s Tomb) and in main nottawasaga bay.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: SuperH on September 05, 2021, 08:09:53 am
Canuck that's some good luck.  I've been fishing "the hole" for a few years, but still consider myself a newbe.  Have had some luck but not like you have indicated.  After lots of hours over July and August, I've landed 6, with the largest 16 lbs.  I'm curious as to what the record for Georgian Bay Salmon is.  Someone showed me a pic of a 30 lb salmon caught this week.  Is that likely?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on September 07, 2021, 08:56:21 am
Well last Friday was the best day I have had on the Bay in many many years.  I was in the Hole and fished alone (so only one rod).  Fished from about 7:45 till maybe 10:30.  All in I had I think 7 or 8 salmon on.  I got 4 to the boat, but released the 4th because I had 3 (roughly 20, 15 and 12) in the cooler and didn't have enough space in our freezer to store that much fish.  I had a bunch of clean knock offs as well, but 3 or 4 were on long enough to feel the fight before they got off.  All fish were around 85 down over 115 to 130 ft.  All on Flasher/meat rig with a little "twist" I saw a guy on YouTube from Michigan do.  I ran an unhooked tinsel fly about half way between the flasher and the strip holder.  An extra swivel in the line holds the fly from running down the line.

I went out Sunday AM in that wind.  Only two other boats out bouncing around.  One was from our marina and runs a large RIB.  We only got one screamer on and not many fish marked. That fish felt big and really peeled the line before it came off. Running for the rod I slipped and broke a couple toes on the bench seat leg and slammed into the seat with my hip/thigh.  Still hurting. 
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: SuperH on September 07, 2021, 09:55:42 am
Thanks for the update Canuck.  I plan to be back on water Thursday/Friday so hope the weather holds and get some of that adrenalin pumping again.  Too back about the damaged toes.  Be careful out there.  I typically fish alone on one rod as well and in choppy water it can be a challenge, but have also had the best luck in the chop. 

Still curious as to whether 30 lb salmon are caught in Georgian Bay.  Have you?
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Canuck on September 07, 2021, 01:27:32 pm
My biggest ever was about 25lbs and that was about 15 years ago.  20lbs is a good fish on Georgian Bay.  I think the one I lost earlier would have been my PB for Georgian Bay.  The 20lb one from Friday was definitely not as strong as the one I lost the week before.  I have not heard of many that are close to 30lbs.  The one that won the Owen Sound Derby this year was just under 25.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: awbringl on September 08, 2021, 08:41:04 am
My biggest ever was about 25lbs and that was about 15 years ago.  20lbs is a good fish on Georgian Bay.  I think the one I lost earlier would have been my PB for Georgian Bay.  The 20lb one from Friday was definitely not as strong as the one I lost the week before.  I have not heard of many that are close to 30lbs.  The one that won the Owen Sound Derby this year was just under 25.

My numbers are rounded

2021:  winner of the Manitoulin Derby: 26 lbs,  winner of the Chantry: 22 lbs,  winner of the OS Spectacular: 25 lbs

2020: Covid - most derbies canceled

2019:  winner of Manitoulin Derby: 31 lbs (2nd place was also 31 lbs but a few ounces lighter; AND the top 25 fish weighed in for that derby were all over 21 lbs),  winner of Chantry: 29 lbs,  winner of OS Spectacular: 30 lbs

Those are just a few examples.  I personally haven't caught a 30+ pound salmon yet, but I've had several in the 25 range and lost a couple of giants that felt completely different than any of the 25's I landed.  So, I think the answer to your 30 pound question is Yes, they're out there.

cheers,
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: SuperH on September 08, 2021, 07:27:20 pm
Thanks, I really appreciate the response.  If others wish to provide their experience, please do.  I'm not sure how I would handle a 30 pounder in the boat alone, but would certainly like to try. I may need a bigger net and some low dose aspirin for my heart attack. :D
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Krawler on September 09, 2021, 12:06:13 pm
I specialize in Quantity not Quality.

I rarely catch big fish, I go for numbers.  I think its because i target warmer waters vs cooler water where big fish are more likely to reside.  I also dont like Lakers so i avoid the cooler water depths but i feel larger salmon will congregate where temperatures are cooler which also seems to be the preference of majority of the bait.  Likely a correlation between size, bait and temp. 

My biggest this year was 21lbs.  Biggest salmon from the Bay was 26 lbs dating back to 1993 when I started rigging on the Bay.

I know a 28 was caught a week ago on Manitoulin, saw a 25 caught in Cwood and my buddy James Meger caught a few monsters in June (no scale but easily in the 20's). 

The Notty gets a very early run of fish in July, some fish even go up in late June.  These strain of fish could be the larger strain of Salmon in Gbay. 
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: SuperH on September 25, 2021, 08:53:19 am
Hi all you salmon fishers!
Is it now too late in the season to give it one last try for some salmon in "the hole"?  I plan to try again next week but wonder if I'm just wasting gas and time, or should I switch for some big fall pike and a few eyes still lurking in the weeds.
Just curious.
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Krawler on September 25, 2021, 11:11:32 am
Back in the day we used to troll Coldwater and fish sturgeon hard throughout October. I recall many years peak runs of Salmon were often early October. That being said, runs are happening a lot earlier with these strain of Salmon and wish recent high water im sure a lot of fish have pushed through. But I’m sure there will be some late staging fish, if not stagers than 2 year olds could be hanging around. Most anglers have taken off their riggers but  I wouldn’t hesitate to go again and I wouldn’t be surprised if you got in to them.  Give it a shot and report back! Good luck!!
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: SuperH on October 01, 2021, 05:14:38 pm
Krawler and others, just reporting back on the results this week.  Went out to the Hole Monday pm 2-4pm and marked lots of fish mainly in the 70-80ft range, but no hits.  Same for Tuesday & Wednesday early morning for 2 - 3 hours each day.  Again same thing, lots of marks, and despite throwing every thing I had in the box and altering depth, and leads from 40 ft. to 100 ft and speeds, nada!  Saw one other lonely boat trying both days and didn't see any action.  But then a day on the water is always better than anywhere else.  Beautiful weather (a bit cool) but enjoying the fall.  One more try next week then the boat goes into hiding till Spring. 
Title: Re: Trolling Report
Post by: Grandpa Jim on October 03, 2021, 11:46:00 am
Thanks for the update. Things have been very slow for quite some time but this is typical of what happens at this point in the season in regards to the "HOLE". I've had two decent salmon in two recent outings. One outing was very brief as we were on our way north for a few days of cruising and just got very lucky as we hadn't yet got the second line in the water. The other fish came on a full evening outing on my son's boat. We were just about to call it quits when the port rod buried its' tip. Both were still bright silver, showing little evidence of having been in the staging process. Both fish hit spoons.
We came south through the hole last night (Saturday) around 6:30 on our way back to the marina and saw only a few boats working the south section in what was likely 120 fow. We had done some kayaking for the previous few days but hadn't done any fishing.
Excitement for me has been limited to having a very large, glossy coated Black Bear show interest in either me or my kayak for a good kilometre and a half along the shoreline of Bone Island. He was definitely not the least bit nervous about human presence being in close proximity. I know bears are very much at home in the water so I maintained a fair distance from the shoreline. Thankfully the bear was content to play hide and seek all the way from first sighting back to our anchored boat. My first mate quickly stowed away our boarding ladder in case the bear proved to be overly friendly. The bear stayed on shore for a while watching the boat then disappeared into the bush.