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Title: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on May 25, 2020, 06:51:39 am
Did anyone make it out this past weekend?  Ramps open and Bay was calm for the most part. 

Made it out Friday midday fished 5 spots around the islands.  Only Hooked Up with one laker.
I new it was going to be a grind but Bay was too nice not to head out. Water temps mid 50ís, marked a lot of good hooks but couldnít turn them. They were all over the water column, as expected.

Saturday am headed out at 5 and tried areas close to Notty
Fished 30-60 fow for the most part.  Managed 4 lakers. Decent size too.
Went out to 80-100fow got a bow and small salmon on 6 color core, took a decent rip on the core and buried the board for a few seconds and fish was gone.
Water temps were in the high 40ís.
Saturday pm fished same area and got 2 more Lakers, both big naturals. Released.
All fish caught on mix of Spoons.

Silver fish are always tough to find this time of year.  In a few weeks will be better.
Bows in the Gbay blue zone will be heating up soon as well.

Saw quite a few boats out Saturday.

Anyone catching? 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on May 25, 2020, 11:47:20 am
Impressive result!
Thanks for your report!
As I reported previously, we were out 12 Mile bay on Saturday for a day without any hits at all.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on May 26, 2020, 03:09:47 pm
Krawler, may I ask you when did you get lakers was your setup different from the time when you got salmons (speed, lures etc)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on June 08, 2020, 10:56:39 am
So my boat is finally in the water.  Took a shake-down trip out to around Giant's Tomb and Awenda Saturday AM.  Didn't stay out long.  It was "brisk" and lumpy and was not marking anything so let's just call that a shakedown trial run!.  I trolled out past the green can and back to the point at Awenda and then back along the park towards the east.  The only place I marked anything was in shallow off the park in two spots.  Looked like maybe bait and lakers?  Trolled back through and nada, so headed back to Hindson.


Took the dinghy out in the bay off Hindson and has some fun with some pike.  They are a blast in shallow when you can seen them slash at the lures.  Caught a couple and missed a couple more.  Took nice little one home for lunch.  My wife and I love Old Bay / Panko breaded pike. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Wasagabeach on June 08, 2020, 05:06:24 pm
I dropped the boat in Wasaga before sunrise.  It looked great out but all I did today was wash all my lures and burn fuel! Off the water at 12:30 and I didnít want to leave lol.  So thatís it for me. No more down rigging until July.  Weíve been having a blast with the pike and now Iíll be looking for walleye.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: buck on June 08, 2020, 05:23:46 pm
Lake trout....all the action apparently has been ďaround the islandsĒ.....simply too far me to run.....i was at Awenda /Methodist today for a few hours...bait fish....didnít see any marks...has anyone been at Ballardís.....or the east side of Beckwith?

It was one fine fine day tho!...that is why my grandfather said they called it fishing not catching!

Any input would be appreciated
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on June 08, 2020, 07:46:12 pm
Did a morning troll today.

3/4
2 salmon, one laker. Lost a solid fish.
Salmon was 12 and 9lbs

Fish were scattered throughout the water column.  Temps varied.  Switch up depths And baits as sun rose.  Lots of unusual currents. Plan was to target South and East facing shorelines that were less Disturbed from weekend winds. Proved to effective with bait and hooks on screen and some solid fish.  Lots of smelt in the fish. A good sign!
Hearing of some decent reports from around the Bay.  Setting up for a good season.


 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kevin B on June 08, 2020, 08:18:29 pm
2 of us went out of Wasaga this morning at 7am and back in by 11am.  2 Lakers, 1 rainbow and my biggest Chinook ever in Georgian Bay.  A healthy very silver 26 lb beast.  I was surprised at this time of year.  I had to make sure I wasn't in Lake O.  I tried attaching a pic but I keep getting an error that the file is too large.  Any tips?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on June 08, 2020, 09:25:48 pm
Amazing. Congrats! Fish of a lifetime!

Would love to see a pic!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on June 08, 2020, 10:32:29 pm
I tried attaching a pic but I keep getting an error that the file is too large.  Any tips?
Yes, the max size for attachment is only 128 KB. If you use Win 10 you can use Photo Gallery to resize it to smallest possible size (I think it is 640) - this way you would be able to attach it. You can also use Windows Paint or Paint.net (free nice app) to downsize your pics.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: John Kendell on June 08, 2020, 11:20:10 pm
Fished from 6:15 to 9:30 from Collingwood to Beach 6 tonight.  Marked a lot of suspended hooks (60-100 in 100-110 fow).  1/4 on lakers, dropped three after a few head shakes.  Camera showed 7 follows, no hits, one being a chinook.  58F surface, 48F at 60, 42F at 110.  The laker had 30-40 smelt in it's stomach including a half dozen fresh ones 4-5" long.  I have not marked a school of bait yet off Collingwood, but lots of hooks.  With so many refusals on camera the fish seem pretty selective.  I have to wonder if it's line shy, lure colour, or type.  Most lakers have been on NK mag (sil/green) and a few on NK28 sil/blue.  They have been long time classics up here for me.  16 boats out tonight.

Congrats on the big chinook - especially this early.  Hopefully a sign of things to come this summer.  John
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kevin B on June 09, 2020, 07:22:24 am
Thanks MARK D.  I will try that and will post the pic.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kevin B on June 09, 2020, 07:27:01 am
Here are 2 pics of that 26lber from Monday morning.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kevin B on June 09, 2020, 07:29:39 am
Here is a second..
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Wasagabeach on June 09, 2020, 08:01:30 am
That is an awesome fish!  I heard some Hollering when I was out there! Now I know why!  I only marked 4 fish on bottom but I had a fish jump about 100 feet away from me.   I had unusual currents where I was too. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on June 09, 2020, 09:14:21 am
What a great fish Kevin B! It must have felt great to have that kind of power on the end of your line in G bay.
I still havenít got my boat out, heavy into home renovations.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Meegs on June 09, 2020, 09:20:45 am
Awsome fish Kevin!     Thatís a true monster for g bay! Especially this time of the year!   Bet that fish would be. Tyee by the fall!     Well done!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on June 09, 2020, 11:19:23 am
Wow.  Just Wow.  Great fish.  Heavy and fat too.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kevin B on June 09, 2020, 03:25:56 pm
Thanks!  It was a fun fight especially with my medium light downrigging rod.  Didnt expect that weight and strength.  Moonshine spoon did it....but the last outing, Meegs was the spoon of the day.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on June 09, 2020, 03:56:01 pm
GAAD i wish I was on that side of the bay.  Its such a long run over from Penetang and costs me a fortune in fuel.  Our salmon fishing does not heat up until late July and its crowded.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: buck on June 09, 2020, 05:34:49 pm
Stories like that keep us all coming back.... agree with the earlier comments by aNother Penetanguishene guy....much later for us ....and crowded

Committed to getting to west side of Christian On the next really nice day!....maybe Monday it looks like

Congrats!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on June 19, 2020, 09:32:58 am
Who's been out this week?  Beautiful stretch of weather.  I was fortunate enough to be able to work up here this week and get on the water almost daily.  Usually do a few hours in the am and quick hour before sunset.  Its been tough, working hard for bites, mainly around the islands.  Water is ice cold, surface is heating up but finding mid 50's down 15-25ft.  Most hits coming off leadcore or flatlining.  Still finding lots of bait but the hooks are not around them.  Went out to the bluezone this am hoping to find some better temps and active fish.  Surface and down temps are much warmer out there but no hits.  Did see hundreds of small fish jumping, I think they were juvenile salmon. 
Anyways curious how others have done, I did see a lot of boats trolling this week. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on June 19, 2020, 10:28:10 am
I was out last weekend and went 7 for 9 all lake trout but couldn't find anything else. All caught near the the bottom. Going to try again tomorrow hoping to find a salmon or rainbow. Should be a nice calm day good luck to whoever gets out
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on June 19, 2020, 11:40:39 am
I was out yesterday, 12 Mile Bay. Trolled 5 hours just after sunrise and 2 hours before sunset. No hits, not much marks... Frustrated, in the middle of the day, we went to islands area and get two small pikes. One released, one for dinner....
Good calm day, but no salmon or trout....
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on June 19, 2020, 12:33:02 pm
Are their a lot of guys trolling 12 Mile yet?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: JL on June 19, 2020, 12:57:10 pm
Out a lot. Iíve seen lots of bait. Caught zero fish in the last few weeks. Hoping I can turn it around after a good start in May.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on June 19, 2020, 02:22:13 pm
Are their a lot of guys trolling 12 Mile yet?
There were three other boats in the morning, not sure if it is considering a lot, as I never saw more. They were in the same area and after two-three hours I also  joint them... I usually don't do it, but it was so tempting I could not resist... But they all trolled near and above shallow probably for pike... or maybe trout? I didn't mark any fish in there..
At the evening there was only one boat trolling near shallow/drop off area.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: nauti-too on June 19, 2020, 07:02:17 pm
June has always been the toughest month on the Bay. Fish can be anywhere as temps and patterns not set yet. Some decent fish caught already...But keep the faith...it only gets better from here on in...July is just around the corner. ;)
Jake....
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on June 22, 2020, 07:14:16 pm
4 for 4 today two lake trout and two salmon salmon were 10 and 11.5 moonshine spoons took 3 the fourth came on michigan stingray on the cheater.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Speerzy on June 23, 2020, 11:58:43 am
Hey Grampa, what depth were you fishing. Hoping to get out this weekend
Cheers
Speerzy
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on June 23, 2020, 02:04:46 pm
Hey Grampa, what depth were you fishing. Hoping to get out this weekend
Cheers
Speerzy
i was in 90 feet down around 50 feet one hit the slider probably around 40 or less.good luck
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on June 23, 2020, 10:52:41 pm
Fished a bit in the hole Sunday AM.  A few boats out.  Marked some decent bait.  Temps were decent at depth.  Didnít get anything. Vacation next week though so hope to burn some fuel and get the cooler slimy.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Jkhunter on June 28, 2020, 08:44:14 am
Any good salmon come out around Collingwood yet this season.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: John Kendell on June 28, 2020, 03:33:56 pm
Iíve had lots of Lakers. No salmon yet for me. I hope to fish more the next few weeks trying to find them.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Homelands101 on July 06, 2020, 02:26:06 pm
Anyone get any lines wet recently, hoping to launch out of Wasaga a couple time this week
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on July 06, 2020, 04:53:18 pm
Lots of lakers.  No salmon yet, but I got a nice Rainbow on the cheater last week.  Almost 10lbs.  Hit like a freight train.
Temps are all over the map and no real thermocline set up around the islands yet, at least as far as I can tell from the times I have been out.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on July 06, 2020, 06:06:18 pm
spent 6 hours trolling around collingwood today marked a few but not a sniff. seemed to mark plenty south of the water tower  not sure what they were
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on July 10, 2020, 08:04:42 am
not seeing many reports .anybody been out lately. i was out yesterday lost a big laker right at the boat and that was it!!! not marking much. could be too hot for some to be out. i was home early to beat the heat  myself.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on July 10, 2020, 09:19:29 am
I was out on Tuesday and caught a 5 lb rainbow near the islands. Actually caught it with a Dipsy diver running about 35 ft down. Even though conventional wisdom says dipseys donít work on the bay I thought Iíd give it a try, as a few years ago a guy told me he actually caught salmon on one.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Fox Fishing 4K (Youtube) on July 13, 2020, 10:55:34 am
I have been out some what steady usually once a week. We were averaging 3-6 salmon an evening but the bite completely died off for us. Year started amazing and have caught over 30+ salmon bjt we just hit a wall. The high winds a couple weeks ago really changed things up and i believe mixed up the thermocline (just a guess and excuse for not catching). Last day out was around July 8th. Tried the hole for a few hours with nothing. Saw around 10 other boats and i only saw 2 fish caught. Tried several depths with no luck. Next time i am out i am going to drop the Fish Hawk in and run a temp down the center deep. Fishing shoukd really start picking up shortly now.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 13, 2020, 04:39:28 pm
Been fishing Lake O for the past week. Will be trolling gbay for this week. Will report if I find them.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 14, 2020, 08:54:54 am
I hit that same wall a couple weeks ago as well. Even the lake trout seemed to stop. Hopefully picks up again soon I'll be out this weekend looking for them. Good luck
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 14, 2020, 11:03:39 am
Made it out this morning for a quick troll.
I swear all we needed was a change in the wind direction to get things going.
Proved to be correct
2/4
All salmon
Both 12lbs near identical fish.
Thermocline still high in the water column as it was 2 weeks ago but good temps a bit deeper.
They still wonít touch my mag spoons.

Be back at it later.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 14, 2020, 12:59:43 pm
Nicely done. That's good to hear hopefully they've made it down to the area i usually fish. Only my 3rd year so i haven't fished too many different areas yet. August is usually good but hoping i can manage a few in july this year.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on July 14, 2020, 02:34:19 pm
made it out to the hole this morning 1/1 11 pound hen. took my mag spoon. as usual the boats chased me out of there by 11.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 14, 2020, 09:55:08 pm
Interesting troll this evening.  Couldnít stick it to them. 2/8
Decent bow and laker
The rest were screaming salmon. Must have been hitting the lure from the side. Another buddy went 1/6 so it wasnít only me. 
Good reports from the Bay today, fish are around and actively feeding!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on July 15, 2020, 02:00:15 pm
So, Krawler, you are saying that in some days there is more popup without hooking the fish and in other days you hook proportionally more?
Did I understand is right?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 15, 2020, 10:20:59 pm
Yes!  Often when hooked and fish gets off we call it a knockoff

3/4 this am
Cold water between the islands. Kinda new that but ventured anyways. 55 degrees down 50. I consider that cold.  Through out my long line and took salmon, bow and laker.
1/2 this evening. Was very rough so didnít last long. BUT ... Got my first 20 of the season.  Best fight Iíve had in gbay. Fish stopped at 555 ft on the counter. Unreal battle. Stayed deep right to the boat. Moonshines have been doing much of the damage lately.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on July 15, 2020, 11:20:08 pm
I see most people fish mornings and/or evenings but skip daytime. Is it because salmon is not active during the day or for other reasons, like hot air temperature, nap after lunch etc?
I personally also seem to get more hits in the mornings or evenings but not sure if it is a rule or just coincidence.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 16, 2020, 06:41:06 am
I personally canít stand the heat plus my chore list is long and prefer to tackle it during the day.  But I know a few guys that follow the Solunar Theory and do very well during peak sunlight.
When I do fish midday and high sun Iíll throw on a big bait or flasher and meat, ignore Temps And drop riggers usually 50ft below optimal temp.  Thatís also what I do on Lake O.
Mind you That doesnít work for staging fish But mid summer kings it does for me.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: John Kendell on July 16, 2020, 12:11:11 pm
Krawler - your getting them on the lead core?  I have yet to run that out here - ever.  I had 55F at 48-52' the last few days off Collingwood.  Fished that temp hard and nada.  Last night I zipped out after 6:30 but wind quickly picked up and waves were hitting 3' so I pulled the plug. 

I find in Lake O I catch many fish between noon and 2PM, but morning and evening are better.  Up here I have never fished the mid-day window.  Just too much slow fishing to stay out that long most of the time.  Mind you I have not fished up here this much in summer in 25+ years so maybe I will stay out longer one of these days.

Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on July 16, 2020, 06:02:11 pm
I am the second season on this board and I see that Krawler's performance is the best....
I'm appreciate his responds and all explanation to my questions but I still cannot get how he manages that...
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on July 16, 2020, 06:49:48 pm
fishing the bay for more than 20 years might have something to do with it ;D
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on July 16, 2020, 08:08:57 pm
fishing the bay for more than 20 years might have something to do with it ;D
hes a teacher I thought. Summers off. Iíll do better that him when I retire.  ;D
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 16, 2020, 10:02:30 pm
The teacher life allows me to spend ample time on the Bay and on Lake O. 

Today was an interesting troll. Opted for midday bc of the overcast conditions. Decided on a run and gun approach. Trolled 6 spots.  Found fish in most spots but could only get bites in 4 of the them.  Even ran out to the Hump, Picked up a nice size rainbow out there.
Didnít mark many fish today which was strange even when temps were down 80+ ft.
When that happens I know to lengthen my lead.  100ft back minimum at all depths.
Also was able to take 2 fish today on cut bait today.
Thunderstorms chased me off
Hopefully be out tomorrow
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 18, 2020, 02:28:47 pm
Great 3 hours this morning ! 8/10 6 salmon, bow and a laker. Constant action.
Turn up the sensitivity, find the thermo and fish it. Despite the warm surface temps, optimal temps
Continue to be just below the surface. Salmon are sitting in warm water I find.  Lots of bait, bellies are full of smelt, very healthy fish.  Still on standard size spoons, they wonít touch the mags.
Heard lots of fish caught this am, hope everyone was able to tie into a few.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on July 18, 2020, 04:28:47 pm
Fished the hole this am with lots of others. 0/0. Marking lots but no takers. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Speerzy on July 18, 2020, 08:15:02 pm
Went 0/2. Lost both at the boat ???. It was nice to feel what a fish is like on the end of the rod. Yes very surprised how high the fish were up in the water column. Need to leave a little earlier on the weekend to get a spot at the launch!!
Speerzy
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on July 19, 2020, 02:39:45 pm
Went to 12 Mile bay yesterday. Trolled 6 hours before/after sunrise, 3 hours before sunset.
Lost one very small fish at the boat, seems like herring or whitefish, and another fish right away after I garbed the rod. All takers in the morning, nothing after sunrise or later.
Question: when you say 'fish is in upper column' or 'fish is under the surface' what exactly depth do you mean?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Tom McCutcheon on July 19, 2020, 04:10:14 pm
upper column means above the thermocline. Under the surface is just that, 2 to 15 feet below the surface. These surface fish might be feeding on surface hatch
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on July 19, 2020, 04:49:30 pm
Since the salmon seem to be eating smelt I want to try using smelt behind a flasher. Does anybody know which grocery stores sell the frozen smelt right now? I may try brining them to make them tougher and last longer. Anybody ever try smelt?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on July 19, 2020, 05:48:23 pm
Thanks, Tom!
I know, I'm probably asking very basic questions, but I'm still new to dowrigging and keep forgetting some stuff (far from young now)...
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 19, 2020, 08:18:25 pm
Since the salmon seem to be eating smelt I want to try using smelt behind a flasher. Does anybody know which grocery stores sell the frozen smelt right now? I may try brining them to make them tougher and last longer. Anybody ever try smelt?


Try running anchovies. Iíve had great success with them on the bay.
They look relatively identical to smelt. A little bigger but the salmon donít care.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on July 20, 2020, 09:25:15 am
Since the salmon seem to be eating smelt I want to try using smelt behind a flasher. Does anybody know which grocery stores sell the frozen smelt right now? I may try brining them to make them tougher and last longer. Anybody ever try smelt?


I have tried store bought smelt but they fall apart.  I think they are too tender.  You can buy frozen anchovies and herring in the GTA but I am not sure about around here.  I have cut my own herring strip by buying frozen pacific herring from an asian food store in Mississauga.  I was going to see if the asian grocery store in Barrie near Crappy Tire sells them.  I tried mackerel and it was too mushy but it looks pretty!.  Herring or anchovy is what you need.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: buck on July 24, 2020, 05:26:50 pm
I was in the ďholeĒ for 3 hours this am...Friday....did not mark a thing....no bait notta...
Had one knockoff

......Tuesday ...same deal...lost one ...user error....Embarrassing

Temps good at 110 to 120 feet of cable....but fished higher Too....slower and faster....still notta

There were 6 more boats...anybody even see anything?

Buck



Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 25, 2020, 06:17:32 am
Fished yesterday late afternoon and early evening. Went 4 for 5. 3 salmon and a splake. Didn't even know there was any splake out there so it was definitly a surprise. Might sneak out for a few hours later today
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 25, 2020, 06:20:24 am
Tried to upload a pic of the splake but says file too large. Anyone know how i can fix that so i can post it?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 25, 2020, 07:31:31 am
Pic
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Meegs on July 25, 2020, 09:28:21 am
That sir is no splake.   Thatís a speck all day long and then some.   Look at the tail.   Iíve heard of them up to 4 lbs in these waters but never got one myself
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 25, 2020, 10:04:09 am
Not as much color as specks I've caught before so i assumed that size would be splake. I knew for sure it wasn't a lake trout
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on July 25, 2020, 12:22:22 pm
Nice fish Myles
Iíve heard of another like that caught in the area this year.
Did it fight like a laker or did it seem to have more energy?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Myles on July 25, 2020, 01:05:40 pm
My girlfriend brought it in we thought it was a laker till it got close to the boat and started doing some spins like a rainbow. It was mixed right in with the salmon we got so it was a surprise for sure
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on July 26, 2020, 11:14:10 am
Wow Myles, thatís a nice catch something pretty rare indeed. Always fun fishing waters where you can get surprises like that.
Iím wanting to get out but these west winds are strong and not forecasted to let up until Iíve left for camping up north. Itís probably do able to launch out of penetang but I like being comfortable when I fish.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: John Kendell on July 27, 2020, 09:41:36 am
As Meegs said, that is a Brook Trout, aka Coaster Brook Trout.  The first I have seen from the bay but somewhat expected.  They tend to silver up like that in the lake and only take on the traditional colours during spawning.  Very cool catch.  I've even seen a couple running up the Credit R. through the fish ladder over the last few decades. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: awbringl on July 27, 2020, 04:44:19 pm
Since the salmon seem to be eating smelt I want to try using smelt behind a flasher. Does anybody know which grocery stores sell the frozen smelt right now? I may try brining them to make them tougher and last longer. Anybody ever try smelt?

Sorry to be negative - I've tried it.  Too mushy.  You would have to pull everything up and replace the smelt every 10 mins.  I've also tried whole sardines...a bit better. But similar results.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on August 01, 2020, 05:44:02 pm
I was out this AM around the tomb and Methodist point.  Too many lakers.  I was solo and got two really quick.  Too quick.  Good marks up high so figured salmon.  Nope, lakers up high above 70 ft in 115.  At 54 degrees.   Had to leave. Lots of bait on bottom.  Lakers coughed up smelt all over the boat again.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 04, 2020, 01:30:34 pm
2/2 last night
Crazy winds and currents made for a tough fish
Came back out this am and fish were active!  Looked for calmer waters and found fish! But couldnít stick it to them went 1/10. Iíve seen this happen before, hook, set, scream and gone. One came undone at the boat and manage to finally boat one.  Figured they were going for the body Or side of the lure, sometimes I hear fish will come and knock the bait out and come in for the kill afterwards. Wasnít the hooks as I changed up baits and same thing was happening. Anyways was fun to see the rods pop!  Everyone says when you come back from Lake O you will be bored but with numbers like this itís very exciting.
Lake O was tough last week lots of cold water on the North Shore, i prefished all week for the tightlines tournament out of Blufferís Park marina. 
I manageD a 27.44 lb salmon good for 8th place in the Silver Salmon Challenge. Also teamed up with Major Impact Angling and took 2nd place in the King of Kings Tightline Tournament.
Great week!  Was awesome to compete against some of the best salmon anglers in the province and perform so well! 
Will be out this week, hopefully get them to stick!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 04, 2020, 06:36:49 pm
Krawler, please accept my sincere congratulations! Your performance is amazing!
I was also in the GB for a day and then twice on LO.... Couldn't even get a single popup....
Nice to read your reports!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Chris B on August 05, 2020, 08:16:23 am
Hit the bay on Saturday this weekend, fishing was excellent! Managed to boat 11 fish, despite having close to 20 knock offs. Pulled in a smaller salmon that was hooked by the tail so I suspect that the fish were tail slapping lures. All fish but one came on Grippers. Don't know if many of you have experience with these spoons but you should really check them out!!! The big trick is to move them fast. Lure speeds from 2.7-4.0 mph have been the trick. They can be found on instagram @gripperlures
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 05, 2020, 09:31:36 am
I got a fish on the gripper on Monday. Nice size salmon
Was going 3.5 surface and 3.1 at the ball. Was overcast and was using the black and purple.  Nice to use when covering ground or the currents are playing against you. They are a bit deceiving when you look at them and hold them, plastic, lightweight and small. But they catch fish so what does it matter?!?!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Kingfisher on August 07, 2020, 09:03:57 am
Hey Krawler, when you refer to the speed are you mph or kph? I got ahold of Chris to get some Grippers, nice guy. Headed out on the Bay tomorrow am, looks like it will be a nice a nice day. hopefully I will have some pics of fish to share.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 07, 2020, 10:38:54 am
Always mph

4/12 last night
Water temps messed up after the wind. Warm down to 95ft but strangely Most hits were coming out of the warmer water down 75/110-140 Spoon bite predominantly, some fish hitting the meat lately.
Strange hits Again, fish would hit, take line and gone. Ran a bit faster too, made no difference.  Talk to some guys that say it has something to do with the moon phases. Sounds like a good excuse.  Noticing line is frayed often so fish are biting at the head. If anyone can find a way to put a treble at the head of a moonshine Iím all ears lol. 
0/3 this am.  Marked good fish down 100/140 but couldnít turn them. Threw the kitchen sink at them! Hopefully they are in a better mood this evening.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 07, 2020, 11:04:38 pm
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Spoon bite predominantly, some fish hitting the meat lately.
Kris,
How often do you change your presentation? And how do you determine if it's time to switch from spoons to meat or anything else?
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Noticing line is frayed often so fish are biting at the head
I also noticed it on one lure even though I doubt if I got any popup at all.
Is it possible that some smaller fish biting in front of the lures?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Chris B on August 10, 2020, 09:13:49 am
Hit the bay Saturday afternoon. Came back with 6 fish, 5 salmon and 1 bow. Had well over 20 knock offs, the fish seem to be hitting lures with their tails and bodies as we had 2 foul hooked fish near the tail (they were released). Anyone else experiencing this?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: kyfish on August 10, 2020, 12:09:29 pm
Hit the bay Saturday afternoon. Came back with 6 fish, 5 salmon and 1 bow. Had well over 20 knock offs, the fish seem to be hitting lures with their tails and bodies as we had 2 foul hooked fish near the tail (they were released). Anyone else experiencing this?

My god Chris. Apparently youíve got it figured out pretty good. Congrats
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 10, 2020, 12:14:03 pm
Zone 14 Regs:
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Zone-wide seasons and limits
Aggregate limits for Trout and Salmon (including Splake)
Limits: S-5 and C-2; total daily catch and possession limit for all trout and salmon species combined
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Chris B on August 10, 2020, 01:32:11 pm
Zone 14 Regs:

Thank you for the repost of the local rules, it is a good reminder for all. If this was brought about by my recent posts please note that I always do my best to follow local rules of any fishing management zone. In this instance there were 3 people on board with sport licenses.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: awbringl on August 10, 2020, 01:38:21 pm
Zone 14 Regs:

Yes...per licensed fisherman...
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Borff608 on August 11, 2020, 12:20:57 pm
Has anyone had any luck with salmon in the hole yet or are you still fishing further out by the tomb/Christian? Iím off this week and hoping to get out a couple times with my family. Will be launching from Toanche. Thanks!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 11, 2020, 02:32:29 pm
Yes...per licensed fisherman...
I know the regs...
But in the Cris posts it implied (at least to me though) that he alone managed to get 20 knock offs and  6 or so fish in a day.
I still believe that it is an impressive result for three lines but for a single person... it was hard to believe...
Sorry if my post appeared mean or otherwise nagging.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Grandpa Jim on August 12, 2020, 08:53:02 am
Chris B's response to Mark D's post shows more class than many would have maintained. Jumping to conclusions and unfounded implications seems to me to be somewhat out of place on this site. Offering an apology after the fact wouldn't be necessary with a little forethought in the first place.
Congrats to Chris on his successful outing.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 12, 2020, 11:11:16 am
Jim, I do agree that my post was somehow awkward.
However Chris posted twice quite rarely seen results from which it appeared that he was alone in the boat. Considering that his first two posts were about buying the lures from him which brought him that luck, it was very easy to be confused.
I certainly should find a better way for clarifying the things. I did not have an intention to disturb this peaceful forum. I learned a lot here, including many tips and suggestions from you, Jim. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: buck on August 12, 2020, 01:58:03 pm
Finally success in the ďholeĒ

Monday and today 2 hens...1x16#  and 1x 20#

120 cable out 3mph....one deep On a Jplug ....the other on a Moonshine slider

Both had lamprey marks....one eel was in the boat....briefly

Are they that common?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: GG on August 12, 2020, 02:31:17 pm
12 lb. chinook from the hole with 95í of wire out on a white Lyman
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: MarkD on August 12, 2020, 02:32:03 pm
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Both had lamprey marks....one eel was in the boat....briefly
Are they that common?

I don't have any luck in GB for the last two months with the salmons, however almost all pikes and big basses I got had some sort of marks on the skin. Not sure if it is lamprey or some kind of skin disease.
All pikes from one particular area come with the marks for two-three years in row.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: GG on August 12, 2020, 02:59:11 pm
Seems to vary year to year. I find about 1/3 - 1/2 of the salmon I pull up have lesions from lamprey.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Whaler on August 23, 2020, 02:32:23 pm
Was out in the hole today and yesterday, slow two days with only one knock off. Lots of boats out in the morning saw a couple of boats net fish. Saturday morning a number of fish were jumping out of the water must have been feeding on the surface.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 23, 2020, 08:57:40 pm
Collingwood Slam Report ...
prefished all week for the event.  Didnít want to post and give away any info ;)
Was tough with the winds and changing weather.  Fish were shallower than usual but no numbers but some bigger staging fish being caught in the area also some nice 2 yr olds hanging around the never ending bait!
Never got a box of 5 fish all week mainly because I was running a lot and not staying in one area more than a few hours. 
This years event was based on total length and not weight because of Covid, to avoid a mass gathering at the weigh in.
On Saturday My team had a game plan but a very last minute cancellation from a team member and also The boat owner As a result of getting extremely sick had me scrambling At 5am.  My teammate was nice enough to actually come to the ramp because he couldnít get in touch with me and give me the unfortunate news. 
With little time left I decided to go Solo! Ended up missing the blast off because I had to go get my boat  and was about 20-30min behind the field not overkill but as everyone says the first 2 hours make or break your chances of winning.  Set up in front of Collingwood and didnít like what I was seeing On my finder so I decided to make the run across The bay and fish some good late season spots. 
Was that ever the right decision.  First spot I stopped at my rod fired instantly but lost it so I Decided to fish that area hard going a quick 2/4 no big size but fish nonetheless, lost a few screamers, heartbreaking.  Kept switching baits And depths with changing sky conditions and the rods fired consistently.  Got into a lull and decided to put down meat which usually Produces fish when things slow down, rod fired right away and landed a nice 10lber.  Put the meat back down 5 min later rod goes off again and landed an identical 10lber.  I had 5 fish and needed an upgrade!  My 5th fish was a shaker.  Then decided to run to another spot with only 30 min left, Switched baits and speeds constantly with 5 min left before I had to make the 20 mile run back to the weigh in the rod Fires and landed another 10lber, huge upgrade over my shaker!   I was pumped!!!!
One rod and a 5 fish box, went 7/10 in the end.
Made it back to CWood, submitted my fish lengths and turns out I came in 4th out of 50 teams!!  A few inches out of the money.  Pretty happy with the results fishing Solo, one rod, a late start and long run across the Bay. 

John Baldry of the Happi Hookah and GTAA put on an amazing event.  Everyone had a great time, well organized and competing against some of the best anglers on the Bay. 
Looking forward to next years event.  I encourage everyone to come out and participate.  Always a good time!!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: dagoat_1 on August 23, 2020, 10:19:31 pm
Great Job and Congrats Krawler!
as usual great report...
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Mrbeee on August 24, 2020, 05:40:28 am
Nice going
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Jam1324 on August 25, 2020, 07:13:48 pm
Nice report and good job Krawler! Were you measuring your fish across from the launch on the side of the concrete dock there? Think you commented to us how hard it was to take the photos solo as we passed you if so. We stayed out in front of Collingwood. Had one in the boat and got our first double header right after before the sun came up, it shut down after that and we didn't catch another fish all day go figure!! 28 1/2, 31 1/2 and 30 1/2. Didn't place but cant be sad about a double header and some fish in the boat!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 26, 2020, 07:14:35 am
Yes that was me. Holding the fish in place and trying to zoom out to snap a pic wasnít easy. Lol
Good job on the 3 fish.  I heard from most that the bite was slow or dead at first light but most guys were hooking up between 9-10:30.  A shame you couldnít hook up throughout the day, you would have been in contention for sure.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Jam1324 on August 26, 2020, 07:48:27 am
Yes, 930-1030 is usually when we manage to pick up a couple more lately but not on that day, we threw everything in the boat at em and just couldn't make a connection  ;D Congratulations again if you had your teammates I am sure you would have been in first!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 26, 2020, 08:06:27 am
Thanks.  I missed a few good ones and my screen was very active all morning!  A second rod would have made the difference. This is my 3rd 4th place finish in 4 years. Every year I say next year Iíll be top 3 and then I come in 4th lol
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Grandpa Jim on August 26, 2020, 09:13:59 am
Kris,
        What you accomplished with the running back and forth and a single rod in the water certainly outdid expectations. Our team managed to take third place with a very thin margin in front of you - and three rods in use. We dropped two very decent salmon off our copper rod due to the erratic drag and slow retrieval ratio on the Convector reel. Wouldn't be a proper derby without a few tales of woe ;D ::).
         Congrats on your accomplishments and continued good luck as the season wears on. I'm sure you'll run across the Talisman in the near future trolling aimlessly off the islands.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on August 28, 2020, 04:58:33 pm
Thanks Jim, Iíll keep an eye out for you. 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: dagoat_1 on September 03, 2020, 10:10:36 pm
Winds blow us out this evening and the early storm did not help.  Anyone else make out today?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Valley Tackle co on September 04, 2020, 12:15:40 pm
We were out yesterday morning went 1/2 loosing a nice mature fish at the boat but hooked up soon after to a smaller male ... got off the water before it got wild !!! Hope to get out soon
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Valley Tackle co on September 05, 2020, 06:19:02 pm
Out again this morning went 2/5 both males again one 9lb and the other 14 . Hooked up on a double header loosing the one fish landing the other fish were high in the water And both Chrome fish lots of season left has anyone been out ?
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: SuperH on September 07, 2020, 08:11:58 am
Any action in the "hole" this weekend?  I've been skunked last three times out.  Marking lots but no takers.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on September 07, 2020, 08:59:52 am
Any action in the "hole" this weekend?  I've been skunked last three times out.  Marking lots but no takers.
Was out yesterday and nada.  Not marking that many.  There were more a few weeks ago.  Ran out to Gianíts tomb for some lakers.  Water temps out there by Giants Tomb were crazy.  Surface was 68.  95 ft down was 65.  100ft was 51.  Hard thermocline but very deep.  NOt that temps matters for staging salmon though.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Saugeen Drifter on September 07, 2020, 09:05:15 am
Anything in the hole is staging, only bite you will get is a reaction bite.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: SuperH on September 07, 2020, 09:17:22 am
Saugeen D:   Are you suggesting it's over for the season? 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 07, 2020, 10:02:18 am
Not even close. Rivers get runs well into October!  The salmon that Iíve seen caught recently are all still very silver.  Keep trolling! Piss them off! 
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on September 07, 2020, 12:06:09 pm
This time of year do you have to fish staging areas closer to rivers, or can you still find them other places like out around the islands? How about the east shore of nottawasaga bay? I launch out of Jacksonís park so not willing to run to  the hole.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 07, 2020, 12:12:23 pm
Great fishing now along Tiny Beaches!
Fish can still be found in all areas around islands. If not matures then bows and 2 yr olds. Itís far from over!  And you can still get them in October!  I donít know why people think Labour Day weekend concludes salmon fishing. Weíve had banner days out there in September, less in October.
My hunting spots have all been a bust  this year, no permission for duck or geese so Iíll be Out fishing a lot more. Will report back!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: andrew9638 on September 07, 2020, 12:50:17 pm
Thanks Krawler, I appreciate the info very much. I think I will continue fishing September and enjoy having a quiet boat launch.
I better add my report from yesterday now. Took my wife, kids and in-laws out mainly for a boat ride. Went to the south side of Christian island to escape the waves and eat lunch. Then proceeded to put down a couple NK spoons, one rigger and one leadcore. Fished about 1.5 hrs and got a bow on the leadcore about 40 ft down. Wasnít really marking much for fish or bait, a few on the bottom (Lakers?)
Overall a beautiful time out and enjoyed trout on the grill upon returning home.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Valley Tackle co on September 07, 2020, 04:47:21 pm
Agree with krawler !!! Lots of season left most of our fish recently have been crazy chrome !! Few dark ones in the mix ... if it wasn't for goose season Iíd be out there until October for sure Recently boated a 19.5 lber and you wouldent know it was ready for the river ... lots of 10-16 lbers and a few little guys that were dark..
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on September 07, 2020, 05:57:24 pm
When we were out Sunday AM in the hole there were salmon jumping periodically.  I used to see that off Bronte harbour when I had the boat on Lake O, but not in the bay.  The one's I saw were chrome silver.  Not that any ended up in my cooler though!.  Back to work this week though so may not get out till the weekend unless I can get out one evening.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Grandpa Jim on September 14, 2020, 07:47:45 am
I'm planning to get out tomorrow evening for salmon but reports from various locations are anything but positive.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 14, 2020, 08:51:42 am
We had 5 boats out Saturday searching the area for anything Silver.
Unfortunately the winds were not in our favor, ESE. The worst!
I trolled Cedar Ridge to Methodist.  Ended up 4/6 bows and lakers. Water temp was 65 everywhere but temps were constant all the way to the bottom in 75fow. Temps matters less now but I still have a rod in temp at all times.
Some guys trolled the Hole and Sawlog and others went to Big Sand and beyond.  We all reported good screens of fish but very inactive. The one constant was the bait! It was everywhere. Iím almost thinking some of it wasnít bait. I hooked into a few bows near Methodist and my line was covered in fleas and we were marking what looked to be suspended bait, could that have been large suspended group of sea fleas?!? I donít know.
Guys that went the furthest found silver juvenile salmon. 
Jim if you plan on getting out the further you go the better chance of getting in to them. Pm me Iíll fill you in.

Seasons not over yet. If we had another nice day, Iíd be out for sure. Sadly I wonít be around for 2 weeks. 

Good luck if anyone gets out
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on September 15, 2020, 03:30:26 pm
Thanks for the update Kris.  I hope to back out this weekend and maybe next.  Was out last Saturday in the hole.  Marked a few but 0/1.  I was out solo and the winds made it really tough to hold the boat straight and at the right speed. Headed back early.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Grandpa Jim on September 15, 2020, 05:50:40 pm
Plans to get out this afternoon and evening went up in smoke when the weather report showed wind gusts of 40 K/H. Must be getting old!!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on September 16, 2020, 07:52:43 am
Its been a really windy September this year compared to most.  Its kept me off the water more than ever and I have a 33ft Sea Ray.  Its not the waves, its the wind.  Its just too hard to fish solo for me.  The wind whips the bow around too quickly and speed control is really tough.  Can't really sit back and relax.  When I get a fish on its a scramble.  Not so bad when I have someone out with me, but it takes the fun out of solo trips.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 16, 2020, 12:47:54 pm
Saturday winds look good for trolling.
Get out there and report back!
I wonít be out there :(

Good luck
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Mars on September 22, 2020, 02:26:42 pm
Got out on the water on Sunday. Launched out of Collingwood at 8:30am, peeled over to Wasaga beach. Trolled back and forth in front of the Nottawasaga in 60 - 80 fow. No success there, so went over to Tiny beach, trolling in 60 fow. Went 3/3 rainbow trout on smallish green and chrome spoons at 45 and 55ft rigger depth.

 - Thanks Krawler for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 22, 2020, 04:35:09 pm
Glad I could help.
Bow fishing like you did should be good for the next month if not longer. Try going 5-10 for shallower in depth every week and follow them to shore. Switch over to small body baits once you get to 10-40fow.
If you want any remaining mature salmon try in shallower10-40ft during low light Near any rivermouth.  Plugs or big body baits flatlining should do the trick.
Always long leads this time of year.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: grampa on September 22, 2020, 06:56:40 pm
havn't had much luck lately was out today still found surface temps down to 80 feet. went 1/3  lake trout . time to switch gears  . need some advice on bow fishing kris seems to have it figured out the above posts have been helpful may give it a try later this week.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Krawler on September 22, 2020, 08:32:54 pm
Winds look good this week to try Tiny beaches area. Iím sure some mature salmon still around and if they are they will be big! These fish spend an extra few weeks feeding On the Bay before they head up the rivers.  Now is the time when they start moving towards river mouths.
 Bows start funnelling down From the middle parts of the Bay, they are in transition now. Perfect time to troll the 50-80fow range.  Donít forget to try flatlining too.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on September 24, 2020, 02:02:27 pm
I may try Saturday one last time.  Boat gets pulled on the 28th.  Last weekend was a bust.  Marked few fish in the hole and didn't raise a fish or see anyone else get any.   If there are no salmon, might check a few bass shoals on the way back.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Mars on September 27, 2020, 04:25:49 pm
So I caught this on Friday morning. I was in 100 FOW straight out from Collingwood harbour. 8lb POW fish weight at 80ft. Same green/chrome lure that I landed the rainbows on.

(https://i.imgur.com/CnKmn2J.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3JfWled.jpg)

I think that it's a chinook salmon or is it a coho?? This is only the fourth fish I've landed on Georgian bay (only started this month) and I was out fishing solo, so I wasn't exactly well prepared for identifying it.

I released it because I wasn't sure whether it was too far changed? So that would make it a late stager? Should I have kept it?

Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Saugeen Drifter on October 13, 2020, 08:31:03 am
It looks like a Chinook. Few ways to tell;
i) Chinook have dots over entire tail, Coho have spots along the top ridge of the tail and a few others but 99% of them only on the top half and very few on bottom half if any
ii) Anal fins (the fin between the anus and the tail), Chinooks fins are longer (inline with the body) then they are deep, Coho's are opposite
iii) Gums, this one is harder to judge; Chinook:gums and inside of mouth are black, Coho:inside of mouth and gums are black and or grey and or white

About your question as a late stagger, who really knows, some salmon spawn in august some in early november, every year is different, there are still fish now making their way up the river, so later than some but before others.

As far as eating goes, depends on how you cook them, by looking at its colour it is definitely turning but if you smoked, pickled it or pressure cooked it which I have done it still is great, if you were planning on frying it in a pan (in my experience) not so great. They are harder to clean though, meat doesn't stay as firm as most of its stored nutrients are being used for reproduction.

Letting it go is always an option, that's up to each individual angler. If you let it go and it swam away no reason not to release it, if the gills were damaged and it was bleeding then it would not have survived, picture shows blood but mouth bleeding is not an issue.
Title: Re: Trolling report
Post by: Canuck on October 15, 2020, 05:26:56 pm
Recap of my last trip in the Hole.


I forgot to mention something about my last trolling trip in the Hole on Saturday Sept 26th.  We had a big 0/1.  We marked a few fish, but very few.  Didn't see a net raised.  Tried everything and every speed/depth.


On the way back to Penetang, decided to troll back through the shallow bottom of the hole, raising the riggers as we went.  Was running a spoon on one side, and a jumbo white glow Lyman with black dots on the other rigger.  Trolling along in about 60ft with riggers at 40, and that Lyman rod pops hard.  I grab the rod and there is a couple of strong pulls and "snap".  Obvious line break, so I pull up the limp line, crying about losing my Lyman.


Well the line had obvious abrasion right at the end. Just like a toothy critter cut the line.  I know the bottom there is mostly mud, so its not like it hit bottom.  And I am 90% sure there was a fish on for a few seconds.  I think I may have nailed a big Musky and got cut off.


So my ask is that if anyone catches a Musky with a Lyman in its mouth anywhere near the west side of Beausoleil, be a champ and let me have my Lyman back!  OR if you find a large size white glow Lyman, black dots and red cup face floating out there...