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Offline TurkeyTom

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Early salmon - where are they
« on: May 04, 2021, 03:24:43 pm »
I have fished salmon for 25 years on the bay . My average catch is between 30 to 40 fish a season. I concentrate on our treasured islands.

Each spring and thru June I am trying to find some spring salmon. No trouble finding Lakers.

I recognize we have some spectacular salmon fishermen on this site. Letís have a discussion about extending our seasons by finding fish before July and after late August.

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Offline VioletHill

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Re: Early salmon - where are they
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 02:05:09 pm »
We bought a cottage 2 years ago on Portage Island (in the Shadow, west side). Lots of success bass fishing in our area.
Fishing in The Hole and south of Giants Tomb downrigging and long lines, we only caught a few small clipped Lake Trout ... no Rainbows or Salmon yet.

Does anyone have any info of/on fish species south of Portage Island, in Portage Bay/Big Bay/Deep Bay? Not sure of proper name ?  We have marked a lot of fish in 75 to 120 foot range. Temps down deep were very warm last year in the high 50's. Are they Lakers or Whitefish or Rainbows/Salmon? We have caught nothing yet. Are there any Walleye? We seem to be the only boat out here?

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Offline Krawler

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Re: Early salmon - where are they
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2021, 03:55:11 pm »
Great questions, at this time of year its a crapshoot out there in our area.  Ice is always leaving late and keeps the waters cool so that doesnt help.  The key to finding early season salmon is warm water and bait.  Typically your warmer water will be on the bottom of the Bay in deep waters 150ft+, bays and basins or you can try river mouths such as the Notty.  Its been off and on there this year with the variable weather condtions we have been having.  I have heard of some salmon being caught off Sawlog, Awenda and the Tomb but i think any fish being caught are lucky catches, no multiple fish days unless you go to warm water areas as mentioned. 

Eventually the Bay will flip usually in May and salmon will make there way up the water column or move to shallower waters.  Key is to find bait, fish wont be too far off, fish these areas in early am or pm and you should hook up.  Run cheaters too as the fish can be anywhere in the water column.  Size 28 or standard size spoons in glow are best and highly reflective colors after 9-10am will work.  vary your speeds to see what they want but try and match your spoon choice to your speeds. Last year Methodist area produced good May/June fish, bait seemed to congregate in those areas. But watch the winds, they seem to push the bait around.  Hope island and east side beckwith was good in May/June as well. 

If you want to burn some gas and time go for a run to the Blue Zone in May/June when water temps reach high 40's or low 50's.  Flatline 200-300' back small body baits or run 1-2 color cores.  Lots of bows out there on the surface, you will see them jumping and surfacing chasing small shiners or eating bugs.  Orange J7 cant go wrong. 
Or you can save on gas and troll the mainland shorelines in May and June and stick to the shallows10-20ft, big bows will cruise the shallows all day. 

Main ingredient to catching fish in our area at this time of year is TIME.  Silver fish can be anywhere in the water column.  Thats why anglers will target areas with warm water to increase their chances of hooking up.  But if you have the time then I suggest running and gunning, try each spot for 30 min then run somewhere for 10 min and try somewhere else.







Offline TurkeyTom

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Re: Early salmon - where are they
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2021, 04:06:22 pm »
Krawler great and helpful reply. The bows have been difficult to find inside. I ran a charter on Lake O and when had times when salmon were sparse we ran for the blue water and looked for temp breaks on the surface. They proved to be the ticket.

I have been amazed how much bait we have over the last couple of years. There is biomass there that could support a million new sport fish if we had the hatcheries or better natural reproduction. Too many warm streams I think.

Again thanx for your insight.

Tom Ekers (TurkeyTom )

Offline Krawler

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Re: Early salmon - where are they
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 12:25:17 pm »
Bows always hard to find on the inside.  After a big blow from the West or NW we will find them stacked up in a few places but that will only last for a day or 2 and then they are gone.  Since bows can tolerate higher temps they may also been found shallower but when Kings are not to far off, who wants to go for the elusive bow?!?!  If we could run more lines id have a 4 color out all day with an orange/yellow spoon for bows higher in the column.